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Post by sythus on Jun 9, 2016 14:06:07 GMT -7
This is by far the cheapest way to get jacked stats and skirt min-maxing. It also raises issues of swapping into nonallowed races, and beings. So, as an example of the shenanigans one could do, any character with a UMD of 19, could spend scroll price + the 10,000 gp material component and swap out two ability scores of 7, for much higher ability scores. Even using standardized npc stats, you could get a 13/12 instead of those 7's, and that's a +4-5 bonus to TWO STATS for 10k gp.
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Post by ambnz on Jun 9, 2016 16:15:56 GMT -7
Sythus, not a gm or anything, but I think its somewhat curbed by the fact that you can only target a member of the same race for major mind swap. The second part about using standardized npc stats still stands I suppose but spellcasters getting a 12 dex/con/str base doesnt seem any more overpowered than most of the other things they do, in my humble opinion. *shrugs*
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Post by Zanos on Jun 10, 2016 15:03:26 GMT -7
You would have to find an NPC capable of creating a scroll of a 9th level spell. Last I checked, NPC services are capped at 15. Furthermore, the scroll price is around 4k base without checking, so it's actually 14k per attempt. The spell is will negates, and if you're casting it off a scroll the DC is only 23, which anybody decent has a solid chance of saving against.
I also highly doubt that anyone who dumped their base scores to 7 at chargen and played with those scores at 7 up to the point they could afford to make such an attempt and get away with it derives much value from those ability scores. In 3.5, even if a wizard polymorphed into something with 50 str, they were still better off casting spells.
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