Post by mystikdragon on May 5, 2015 6:41:07 GMT -7
Fighter Archetype Tower Shield Specialist (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/tower-shield-specialist) has a ability that will need probably a official GM ruling
Tower Shield Training (Ex)
At 3rd level, a tower shield specialist gains armor training as normal, but while he employs a tower shield, the armor penalty is reduced by 3 and the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor increases by 2. The benefit increases every four levels thereafter as per standard armor training; if the tower shield specialist is not employing a tower shield, the benefits to armor training revert to the normal bonuses.
The question is do the bonuses for the dex and armor check apply to both the armor and tower shield or just the armor
Previous paizo forum (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ms97?Archetypes-Fighter-Tower-shield-specialist) discussed this but nothing really came out of this except a brief post by Jason Nelson one of the authors of ultimate combat in which this archetype comes from. He says (sic) " with the caveat that I can speak only for my RAI in designing the archetype and that my comments do not represent an official ruling by Paizo for RAW rulings for PFS or anything else:
The armor/shield training class feature of the Tower Shield Specialist are intended to apply in parallel to both armor and shield."
At the end of the day all I got out of it is that it will be a GM ruling
So GMs ......... rule
P.S. I hope it applies to both cause what's the point of the ability to increase dex max if you are still restricted with your tower shield dex max
Tower Shield Training (Ex)
At 3rd level, a tower shield specialist gains armor training as normal, but while he employs a tower shield, the armor penalty is reduced by 3 and the maximum Dexterity bonus allowed by his armor increases by 2. The benefit increases every four levels thereafter as per standard armor training; if the tower shield specialist is not employing a tower shield, the benefits to armor training revert to the normal bonuses.
The question is do the bonuses for the dex and armor check apply to both the armor and tower shield or just the armor
Previous paizo forum (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ms97?Archetypes-Fighter-Tower-shield-specialist) discussed this but nothing really came out of this except a brief post by Jason Nelson one of the authors of ultimate combat in which this archetype comes from. He says (sic) " with the caveat that I can speak only for my RAI in designing the archetype and that my comments do not represent an official ruling by Paizo for RAW rulings for PFS or anything else:
The armor/shield training class feature of the Tower Shield Specialist are intended to apply in parallel to both armor and shield."
At the end of the day all I got out of it is that it will be a GM ruling
So GMs ......... rule
P.S. I hope it applies to both cause what's the point of the ability to increase dex max if you are still restricted with your tower shield dex max
